How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

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Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

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We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

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ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Does meth make women super horny like it does men?

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

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ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

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ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

How do you take your erotic photos and how do you choose the poses?

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

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ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

What was it like being spanked as a kid?

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

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Kabir (a weaver)

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

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Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Sain (a barber)

then who is there to know what happens without?

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

NOW…

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

I am like a fish out of water,

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

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Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

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Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

CONCLUSION:

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

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Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

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The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Now here in this verse

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.